And lie angles can bend over time with simple use.Stu - Is it true that Hogan wrote Bernhard Langer a nastygram after he won the Masters with Apex shafts in his Wilson Staffs? I also think people are possibly denying the fact that perhaps Hogan wasn't as precise as they thought with his equipment. Then I have a 1.5* difference between my 9 and PW lie angles. We then go thru each club with impact tape on *grass* and decide from there, which clubs to bend and which way and how much. I'll fit for MOI second to last, then since the impact dispersion is much tighter, I can get a much better idea where the golfer is striking the ball.
I know that's why I fit for lie angles LAST when doing clubs for myself and customers. I would also imagine that a golfer's particular swing with each particular club could prevent that as well. Even Steve Elkington discussed this in a video as shaft droop can play a role in your lie angles that fit you best. Lie angles don't have to be in perfect increments.
BEN HOGAN APEX SHAFT SPECS FOR DIRECTOR IRONS FULL
Compared to today, they are about 1 full inch shorter. Still, Hogan's clubs were likely about 1/2" shorter than what the standard for back then. In the 70's, they went down about another 1/4".
I would say in the late 80's is when OEM's started to make the jump from 37-3/4" long 5-iron (w/ grip) as standard to add a 1/4" to make it 38" long, which is today's standard. Isn't the discrepancy between the two & three and the big gap between the 8 & 9 to be expected on handmade clubs from the 50s? I've done numbers on dozens of sets straight out of the box from the factory that were marked standard but the individual irons were all over the place from three up to two down with the five and seven irons set at the same loft. All in all if you found a set of vintage clubs with these numbers you'd have to say they're a bit short but not much and standard spec. If you use this for a standard, the specs on all the Titleist blades hardly changed at all from the 70s thru the 2000s & do a comp of this Hogan set they're all about 1/2" under & between standard & 2 flat on the lie and the lofts are weak compared to this standard but close to inline to the old MacGregor standard from the 50s & 60s where the PW/11 iron was 52° & a three iron was 22°. Here's the pg from the Titleist historical db with the specs for the '84 841 top end blades Thanks for this Richie, its pretty obvious that the components would have to be separated to find out what's really going on but what are you using for a "standard"? If you're going by anything made today, even a set of forged blades its apples & oranges. Once again, thanks to Jeff Martin and the Think it is within reason that Hogan may have put an inordinate amount of weight His irons how stiff and difficult they were to hit. But if the weight was primarily located towards the butt end of the Very heavy static weight clubs that would be difficult to swing with any real That’s part of the problem with swingweight, Hogan may have had Would need to get a better idea of the total weight of the club and the MOI to His clubs also had a very light swingweight to them. So, Hogan’s clubs with relation to today’s standard were more like That for every ½” difference in shaft length. Hogan was only aboutĥ’6” tall, but he had no problem with making his clubs rather short in length.Įven back then, they were about ½” shorter than vintage iron However, I will assume that Hogan used theĪnd here are the swingweights (based off the You can follow the thread at this link:ġ953 set had different lie angles than his ‘practice’ set. In particular a set of 1953 irons Hogan used and a Jeff Martin over at was able to get the measurements of Ben Hogan's irons from the USGA House.
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